What do you call a guy with no legs, and a purple heart?
A murderer!
Enh, I see what you did there, but to me it is going in the opposite direction... even what Carr said is humorous compared to this. Yours is more of an insult than an actual joke.
>> ^KnivesOut: >> ^sme4r: Carr is a bish, but he managed to respond well to the criticism. Unfortunately for you Carr lovers, I use what little power I have here on the sift to downvote anything with him in it, and this is no exception.
First off: what's a bish?
Second: no you didn't down-vote this, because you can't, so wtf are you talking about?
Whenever he sees one of the videos, he shakes his fist at the screen.
>> ^Stormsinger: >> ^dystopianfuturetoday: ^I'm no fan of Christianity, but it's unfair to compare well meaning Christians with the scumbags who run Scientology.
Scientology requires that you buy ridiculously expensive classes, books, treatments and potions in order to advance your level of religiosity. Most sects of Christianity accept voluntary donations, but do not require them in exchange for the right to participate.
Lock those sci-fi rejects up and throw away the key as far as I'm concerned.
They do -now-, but Christian churches have done their share of arm-twisting/extortion in the past. Let's remember the practices of selling indulgences, and tithing. Both of those were directly trading "salvation" for money.
Perhaps a better comparison would be to compare Scientology to a young Christianity. When you do that, they just don't look all that different.
Scientology will learn from its mistakes and slowly become more and more "mainstream" as it grows. Until we start educating people that ALL religion is basically the same, we will have cults and religions (and really, there isn't much of a difference there if you look deep enough.
Christianity presently makes people shoot abortion doctors, deprive homosexuals of basic rights, and all sorts of other bigotry. Why isn't Christianity "dangerous" the way scientology is? Oh, I'm sure some will say that isn't ALL christianity, just the fringe, but the reality is that I'm sure Scientology has its moderates as well...
... Really people, if there was an all powerful force in the universe, there would be some consistency in religion. The very fact that there are so many different views should give you a clue that religion addresses a basic human need to understand the unknown, but isn't actually based on anything real.
Well, except for the Mormons... they are clearly right.
I'm going to put this real simple: you go to Europe and find that most people benefit from the fact they know multiple languages... only stupid people fear bilingualism (or multilingualism, etc.).
As for this video, I hate to say it, but I'm not gonna side with the student. Their actions are NOT rtepresenative of an environment where discussion is to be fostered. Just like the poster a few up said, they didn't ask to ban him from talking, but effectively did the same thing by storming the stage.
I'm really fascinated by this reaction. I mean, Christians don't get up and walk out of the room when you ask them about the benevolent zombie which they practice cannibalism and vampirism in order to resurrect every Sunday...
... All jokes aside, my characterization of the Christian story is an example of how you can take a religious belief and make it hyperbole by stating it in a non-traditional way. So if we take that as a model for a reason why this Scientology representative might be offended by the mis-characterization of the Church's deepest beliefs, it would still beg the question as to why he storms off instead of just correcting the reporter's way of putting things.
Are they embarrassed by their own belief? Hard to say...
Let's take it at face-value for a moment. Let's say that the scientologists only "get to know" this stuff after they've been through the previous "levels" or whatever because it is designed to make them understand fundamentals before revealing something which is hard to believe without proof. They show you all this other stuff, which potentially makes your life better and "works" and then, only then, do they tell you about the deep secret which involves something other-worldly...
I still just don't get why they would get offended if asked about it. Look at the Raelians, who follow a total nutjob who is absolutely convinced of a lot of silly stuff just as kooky as the allegations of what the scientologist believe and they have no problems chatting about it. Neither do Mormons, or Christians, or whatever.
So, what's the deal? If you are asked about something and it is wrong, wouldn't you just say "no actually, we don't believe in that." It kind of reminds me of asking someone if they are a virgin and them getting all pissed off and storming off; chances are they probably are a virgin. I'm just surprised that they haven't found a better reaction to this yet. You'd think with all the money, legal advisers, and resources someone in their organization would have come up with a more efficient way to deal with these questions.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, Scientology is no different than any other religion. Some guy came up with some story about how the universe was formed and now they want people's money and attention. Does scientology hurt people? I'm sure it hurts some... so did Christianity during the inquisition. Jehova's witnesses prevent blood transfusions and Christian Scientists forego medical attention altogether... are they hurting people?
Finally, I'll say that Scientology will likely catch on that this type of reaction is not good press and come up with a more effective way of dealing with these problematic aspects of their "faith." We need to take a step back and realize that they are the perfect metaphor for religion in general. If you have a problem with scientology, you need to realize that you have a problem with ALL religion.
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Heres a joke:
What do you call a guy with no legs, and a purple heart?
A murderer!
Enh, I see what you did there, but to me it is going in the opposite direction... even what Carr said is humorous compared to this. Yours is more of an insult than an actual joke.
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>> ^sme4r:
Carr is a bish, but he managed to respond well to the criticism. Unfortunately for you Carr lovers, I use what little power I have here on the sift to downvote anything with him in it, and this is no exception.
First off: what's a bish?
Second: no you didn't down-vote this, because you can't, so wtf are you talking about?
Whenever he sees one of the videos, he shakes his fist at the screen.
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Thanks for making a stand, how dare they equate us with youtube. It's like calling cream "milk". ;-)
Hope you land on your feet. When Jesus closes a door ...
... Satan fires up a chainsaw?
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>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
^I'm no fan of Christianity, but it's unfair to compare well meaning Christians with the scumbags who run Scientology.
Scientology requires that you buy ridiculously expensive classes, books, treatments and potions in order to advance your level of religiosity. Most sects of Christianity accept voluntary donations, but do not require them in exchange for the right to participate.
Lock those sci-fi rejects up and throw away the key as far as I'm concerned.
They do -now-, but Christian churches have done their share of arm-twisting/extortion in the past. Let's remember the practices of selling indulgences, and tithing. Both of those were directly trading "salvation" for money.
Perhaps a better comparison would be to compare Scientology to a young Christianity. When you do that, they just don't look all that different.
That was one of my points over on the comment I made for this video: http://www.videosift.com/video/Scientology-Leader-Can-t-Handle-the-Heat-On-Xenu-Storms-Out
Scientology will learn from its mistakes and slowly become more and more "mainstream" as it grows. Until we start educating people that ALL religion is basically the same, we will have cults and religions (and really, there isn't much of a difference there if you look deep enough.
Christianity presently makes people shoot abortion doctors, deprive homosexuals of basic rights, and all sorts of other bigotry. Why isn't Christianity "dangerous" the way scientology is? Oh, I'm sure some will say that isn't ALL christianity, just the fringe, but the reality is that I'm sure Scientology has its moderates as well...
... Really people, if there was an all powerful force in the universe, there would be some consistency in religion. The very fact that there are so many different views should give you a clue that religion addresses a basic human need to understand the unknown, but isn't actually based on anything real.
Well, except for the Mormons... they are clearly right.
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I'm going to put this real simple: you go to Europe and find that most people benefit from the fact they know multiple languages... only stupid people fear bilingualism (or multilingualism, etc.).
As for this video, I hate to say it, but I'm not gonna side with the student. Their actions are NOT rtepresenative of an environment where discussion is to be fostered. Just like the poster a few up said, they didn't ask to ban him from talking, but effectively did the same thing by storming the stage.
That said, the minutemen are douchebags.
100 ft Glow Stick
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or at least "private" which makes it unviewable...
Arm wrestler has one giant arm
http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/index.php/2009/10/matthias-schlitte-is-a-modern-day-popeye/
It is supposedly a strategy through which by training just one part of his body he can compete at a lower weight category and clean house...
Scientology Rep. Can't Handle the Heat On Xenu, Storms Out
... All jokes aside, my characterization of the Christian story is an example of how you can take a religious belief and make it hyperbole by stating it in a non-traditional way. So if we take that as a model for a reason why this Scientology representative might be offended by the mis-characterization of the Church's deepest beliefs, it would still beg the question as to why he storms off instead of just correcting the reporter's way of putting things.
Are they embarrassed by their own belief? Hard to say...
Let's take it at face-value for a moment. Let's say that the scientologists only "get to know" this stuff after they've been through the previous "levels" or whatever because it is designed to make them understand fundamentals before revealing something which is hard to believe without proof. They show you all this other stuff, which potentially makes your life better and "works" and then, only then, do they tell you about the deep secret which involves something other-worldly...
I still just don't get why they would get offended if asked about it. Look at the Raelians, who follow a total nutjob who is absolutely convinced of a lot of silly stuff just as kooky as the allegations of what the scientologist believe and they have no problems chatting about it. Neither do Mormons, or Christians, or whatever.
So, what's the deal? If you are asked about something and it is wrong, wouldn't you just say "no actually, we don't believe in that." It kind of reminds me of asking someone if they are a virgin and them getting all pissed off and storming off; chances are they probably are a virgin. I'm just surprised that they haven't found a better reaction to this yet. You'd think with all the money, legal advisers, and resources someone in their organization would have come up with a more efficient way to deal with these questions.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, Scientology is no different than any other religion. Some guy came up with some story about how the universe was formed and now they want people's money and attention. Does scientology hurt people? I'm sure it hurts some... so did Christianity during the inquisition. Jehova's witnesses prevent blood transfusions and Christian Scientists forego medical attention altogether... are they hurting people?
Finally, I'll say that Scientology will likely catch on that this type of reaction is not good press and come up with a more effective way of dealing with these problematic aspects of their "faith." We need to take a step back and realize that they are the perfect metaphor for religion in general. If you have a problem with scientology, you need to realize that you have a problem with ALL religion.